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allancue · Sep 06, 2007, 02:32 AM // 02:32

I just got my Dwarven Armor set, but I can't seem to post it in the Hall of Monuments. Is it not considered "elite" armor? What's going on?

Psuedo Halgoen · Sep 06, 2007, 04:59 AM // 04:59

I'm getting the same with my Female monk. I bought Ocher Sandals, Aureate Pants, Adorned Handiwraps and Gilded Vestments.
It looks like a set when I put it on, but the only other options I have at the Armor fellow are Chaos Gloves, Stone Gauntlets, Bandana, and Dragon Gauntlets. I assume that these are optional extra's and the set that I bought Is actually the right set.

I'm going to assume it's a bug, as I didn't buy any head pieces for my Elementalist and her Norn & Monument armor work just fine in the Hall of Monuments.

/meh

=HT=Gnard_Smasha · Sep 06, 2007, 05:25 AM // 05:25

This is being addressed by Gaile and the Anet staff. It's not considered an "elite set" of armor, because all of the names are different. There is talk about changing it, tho.

Xitoahc · Sep 06, 2007, 06:07 AM // 06:07

What Emily Diehl said comes to mind when answering why HoM does not accept the Dwarven Armors:

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The Dwarves have individual armor pieces that equate to one full set per each of the ten professions, although these are not meant to be a full "set". Rather, we meant for them to be able to be mixed and matched with other pieces of armor to create unique looks.

As such, HoM cannot accept these as they were meant for mix and match sets and not as a whole set. They are as addable as the Destroyer Gauntlets or the Blindfold, what could be done as a recompense would be to add the Eagle set for all other professions, however that was also answered in the same place I got this quote:

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As far as the Silver Eagle set goes, this Warrior set was actually an armor set that was basically left over from our pre-production. For various reasons, full production never went into creating this set for all ten professions, so we had this particular suit of armor orphaned. We were faced with the choice of leaving it out entirely for the sake of balance between the professions (which meant that someone's work wouldn't go into the game and no one would be able to enjoy the pieces), or put it in regardless of whether it was a single profession set. Because we felt that it would be better to just put it in rather than stow it away and never let anyone have it, we decided to place it into the game.

Before you guys ask, I don't believe that we have any other sets like this for other professions, and I'm not certain if plans have been made to make additional armor sets to compensate for the added Warrior piece. I'm guessing no, but I honestly have no idea. As a final note, don't think of this as profession favoritism. As I mentioned before, this was basically a concept set that just happened to be left over that we decided to toss into the game, and no conscious thought was put into adding this for Warriors and not for other professions.

Hopefully that answers your inquiry.

Endow Gee · Sep 06, 2007, 06:46 AM // 06:46

Wow! I spend all that gold and Materials to buy this armor and its not even an ELITE? I want refund!!

I just hope they make this armor elite due to the armor value!

AnnaCloud9 · Sep 06, 2007, 06:50 AM // 06:50

Elite armors have always been specified by their price tags, unfortunately. Anything less than 15K, as a price per piece, isn't considered elite.

hybrid114 · Sep 06, 2007, 07:26 AM // 07:26

HoM takes my Ancient set I assume it takes the other 10k sets from NF to dont see why it shouldnt take that set either since it costs the same. Anyway moving on...

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Originally Posted by Xitoahc

What Emily Diehl said comes to mind when answering why HoM does not accept the Dwarven Armors:

As such, HoM cannot accept these as they were meant for mix and match sets and not as a whole set. They are as addable as the Magma Gloves or the Blindfold, what could be done as a recompense would be to add the Eagle set for all other professions whoever that was also answered in the same place I got this quote:

As far as the Silver Eagle set goes, this Warrior set was actually an armor set that was basically left over from our pre-production. For various reasons, full production never went into creating this set for all ten professions, so we had this particular suit of armor orphaned. We were faced with the choice of leaving it out entirely for the sake of balance between the professions (which meant that someone's work wouldn't go into the game and no one would be able to enjoy the pieces), or put it in regardless of whether it was a single profession set. Because we felt that it would be better to just put it in rather than stow it away and never let anyone have it, we decided to place it into the game.

Before you guys ask, I don't believe that we have any other sets like this for other professions, and I'm not certain if plans have been made to make additional armor sets to compensate for the added Warrior piece. I'm guessing no, but I honestly have no idea. As a final note, don't think of this as profession favoritism. As I mentioned before, this was basically a concept set that just happened to be left over that we decided to toss into the game, and no conscious thought was put into adding this for Warriors and not for other professions.

Hopefully that answers your inquiry.

Its a shame every Dwarven set looks incredibly ugly imo and doesnt look any better then pieced with the collectors items. Infact the collectors items dont go well with anything.
Silver Eagle with the exception of a few select sets (Norn Ranger) is the best looking (Even if it is a re-skin but what isnt today?) so whoever designed it needs to get re-hired and finish the job.
IMO with all the negativity flying around about GWEN if they fixed the armor and weapons monuments in HoM and added Silver Eagle for the rest of the classes a lot of people would be a lot more happier and pleased.

WinterSnowblind · Sep 06, 2007, 07:27 AM // 07:27

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Originally Posted by AnnaCloud9

Elite armors have always been specified by their price tags, unfortunately. Anything less than 15K, as a price per piece, isn't considered elite.

What about the Ancient armour? That goes into the HoM fine. And what about the Vabbian, technically, it's only 5k. I believe most of the other new GW:EN armour does too. The only problem seems to be with the Dwarven, due to the names of the pieces and the missing parts for a lot of the classes.

Xitoahc · Sep 06, 2007, 07:45 AM // 07:45

The missing parts are intentional in my honest opinion, this was never meant to be a full set, although some of the piece do fit well together. The only exception to this would be the Eagle Armor which I'm not sure is addable to the HoM or not, and if not that most certainly is a bug. The addition of Dwarven armor itself is not, they'd have to create a way to show off your stand-alone Gauntlets and Headgear as well if they did that.

Metal Herc · Sep 06, 2007, 08:07 AM // 08:07

Ya, as a warrior my Silver Eagle armor is not addable to the HOM. I had no clue there wasnt an equivalent for the other classes. That really sucks. Seems kinda like the dwarven was half-assed.

Ahiko · Sep 06, 2007, 08:10 AM // 08:10

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Originally Posted by AnnaCloud9

Elite armors have always been specified by their price tags, unfortunately. Anything less than 15K, as a price per piece, isn't considered elite.

The Labyrinthine armor in Marhan's Grotto goes for 8k a piece, but the materials include 400 Rolls of Vellum making it come out to about 80-100k for the whole set. I haven't tried it in the HoM, but I'm pretty sure it's an Elite/Prestige armor as the Wikis say it is.

Luciora · Sep 06, 2007, 08:19 AM // 08:19

So last night I buy my first set of GW:EN armour from the dwarves. Looks pretty cool as far as male ele armours go. So I head off to the HoM to add it and discover, as many others have, that it is not "elite".

Now the excuse given about this being a set to use with matching with other armours is unacceptable to me. It certainly looks like a complete set to me!

Price can't be the determining factor either since NF had cheap armour and sorry to say, far worse looking, yet they are allowed?

Please ANET, allow us to add the full dwarven armour to the HoM, I've spent a lot of hours collecting every armour set in the game and I'd like to have this set in there as well.

Reflect · Sep 06, 2007, 08:55 AM // 08:55

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Originally Posted by AnnaCloud9

Elite armors have always been specified by their price tags, unfortunately. Anything less than 15K, as a price per piece, isn't considered elite.

LOL
Vabbian is 5k per piece and only FoW is leeter than it am i not right??

Xitoahc · Sep 06, 2007, 09:14 AM // 09:14

Again this isn't a matter of it being considered an elite armor or not, if anything they are part of the "elite" stand-alone piecesadvertised, to mix and match with your other armors. This was implemented partially to cater to those who like to combo their armors giving them unique pieces to work with. Although some seem to fit well together, you'll get the cases where it doesn't.

Hopefully if enough input is gathered from the community, the Art Team will reconsider their stand on the Eagle Armor being implemented for the other nine classes, which in turn allows them to have a fourth armor to add to the HoM.

silz · Sep 06, 2007, 11:05 AM // 11:05

I can confirm that the Warrior Silver Eagle armor can not currently be added to the HoM.

Whilst I undertsand the issue of the so called "mixed" dwarven sets, the Eagle Armor is a complete set, obtained in GW:EN a lvl 20 expansion. I stress I can understand the reasoning anet are using, but that doesnt mean I agree with it.

I used this as an example and sent in a support request asking if the inability to add Silver Eagle to the HoM was an error or oversight. Guess what? I got the generic reply that NCSoft had invested time in putting together the official wiki, to check there for an answer, if the answer wasnt there, go check with the fan forums, if the answer wasnt on a fan site, I should ask my question in the forums *rofl*.

Well, the answer isnt anywhere right now on the Silver Eagle armor

On the one hand they seem to be saying only complete high end sets (ie hands, torso, legs, and feet) bearing the same name can be added to the monument, yet they exclude the armor from the "end game" area from being added (whether or not its a complete set).

As far as i can make out the Norn, Vanguard and Asuran sets can be added (not that I have bought them yet), so why can't the dwarvern sets when you have nearly compelted the game to be able to get to the armor crafter?

rangersaurus · Sep 06, 2007, 11:49 AM // 11:49

I keep seeing these posts saying that Dwarven armor doesn't show in HoM, but there is little mention of the other types, so I was wondering if it was just a bug with the dwarven armor. Is this the same with Vanguard armor? What about the different headgear, like blindfolds or bandanas?

Onarik Amrak · Sep 06, 2007, 11:58 AM // 11:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by silz

I can confirm that the Warrior Silver Eagle armor can not currently be added to the HoM.

Whilst I undertsand the issue of the so called "mixed" dwarven sets, the Eagle Armor is a complete set, obtained in GW:EN a lvl 20 expansion. I stress I can understand the reasoning anet are using, but that doesnt mean I agree with it.

I used this as an example and sent in a support request asking if the inability to add Silver Eagle to the HoM was an error or oversight. Guess what? I got the generic reply that NCSoft had invested time in putting together the official wiki, to check there for an answer, if the answer wasnt there, go check with the fan forums, if the answer wasnt on a fan site, I should ask my question in the forums *rofl*.

Well, the answer isnt anywhere right now on the Silver Eagle armor

On the one hand they seem to be saying only complete high end sets (ie hands, torso, legs, and feet) bearing the same name can be added to the monument, yet they exclude the armor from the "end game" area from being added (whether or not its a complete set).

As far as i can make out the Norn, Vanguard and Asuran sets can be added (not that I have bought them yet), so why can't the dwarvern sets when you have nearly compelted the game to be able to get to the armor crafter?

Yeah, support has been a joke for a while now. They just point everyone away from their offices and straight to the fan sites. Talk about customer service.

cthulhu reborn · Sep 06, 2007, 12:08 PM // 12:08

Well the dwarven armours aren't sets of armour....they're just randomly thrown together armour items.
That is what needs fixing....you save the world and then you have to grind to get....rags.
Except warriors of course...they get an armour set, though it is an ugly set...it almost looked nice...

Sihaya Syme · Sep 06, 2007, 12:30 PM // 12:30

They should start fixing this crap FAST -_- I think the easiest would be to design Silver Eagle sets for all professions, to make things fair, make it so that you can add that set, and just leave the mix and match pieces.

Luciora · Sep 06, 2007, 01:17 PM // 13:17

If the Dwarven "rags" really is just a bunch of things left over then why on earth have the rep requirement for it?

Why allow each of the other races a set and then skimp on the dwarves? Is there some dwarven hatred going on at ANET?